2020年7月27日

インドネシア残留台湾系日本兵スニヨンについて

日本敗戦後30年近くモロタイ島に残留していたスニヨン(日本名;中村輝夫)について、インドネシア語での連続ツイートがあったので備忘録として残します。 Saya mengumpulkan tweet2nya supaya tidak terlupakan sejarahnya.
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अह्मद् तोदोरोकि @ahmadhito

気づいたらインドネシア人に粘着されていた...こういうのは初めて。なんか面倒くさくなってきたので放置します。

2020-09-28 18:37:55
Matt Selamet @MattSelamet

@ahmadhito @Bohai64084582 It seems you didn't get my point, that based on Islamic teaching it's not allowed to use other family/tribe/lineage name for someone not belong to that family/tribe/lineage So I'm with you for confronting him using Nakamura as his family name, ok pic.twitter.com/FoMtaKK1DR

2020-09-28 17:09:24
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अह्मद् तोदोरोकि @ahmadhito

@MattSelamet @Bohai64084582 Who is Taiwanese guy? 中村 輝夫 NAKAMURA Teruo or スニヨン(史尼育唔)Suniuo or 李光輝 ? I only expressed my feeling to @potretlawas about his name but the account is not Taiwanese's one. Are you Taiwanese?

2020-09-28 17:01:16
अह्मद् तोदोरोकि @ahmadhito

@MattSelamet @Bohai64084582 Again I'd like to ask you ; Who named him NAKAMURA Teruo? Who took his original name Suniuo from him? Why he fought alone for Japanese emperor in Morotai island for thirty years? Why he died of lung cancer in Taiwan?

2020-09-28 16:44:50
Matt Selamet @MattSelamet

@ahmadhito @Bohai64084582 @ahmadhito you are the one originally complaining about Taiwanese using Japanese name, I didn't. Then why you return it to me who never make such complain? It doesn't make sense

2020-09-28 16:44:39
अह्मद् तोदोरोकि @ahmadhito

@MattSelamet @Bohai64084582 What do you think if the original latin alphabet script users are complaining in the similar way you did to me "As original latin alphabet script users, we have objections to let you use your name with latin alphabet script"? And I don't force you to call him Suniuo.

2020-09-28 16:25:01
Matt Selamet @MattSelamet

@ahmadhito @Bohai64084582 ...are complaining in the similar way you did to that taiwanese guy: "As devanagari script users, we have objections to let you use your name with devanagari script"? In the other way, I agree with you to prohibit others using family name from the other family, e.g. Nakamura

2020-09-28 15:55:39
Matt Selamet @MattSelamet

@ahmadhito @Bohai64084582 Devanagari is script system used in several languages in & around indian subcontinent Deva absorbed to Indonesian as "dewa" a hindu deity/god. While Nagari absorbed as "negeri" As a reaction to your initial comment👇, what do you think if the original devanagari script users... pic.twitter.com/kzrCqn6FOf

2020-09-28 15:52:11
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अह्मद् तोदोरोकि @ahmadhito

@MattSelamet @Bohai64084582 アフマド is my Islamic name and 轟 is my family name. There is no Nepali name for me and I only show my name in Devanaagarii.

2020-09-28 15:32:07
Matt Selamet @MattSelamet

@Bohai64084582 @ahmadhito If the objection only for using japanese name, then it is baseless, as nepalis can object him for using Nepali's name & Arabs can object too for using arabic name while @ahmadhito is not Nepali neither Arab In Islam it is forbidden to use others family name which is not theirs pic.twitter.com/Tf8zSbjLF3

2020-09-28 13:11:55
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Matt Selamet @MattSelamet

@Bohai64084582 @ahmadhito I understand later after researching about the family name Nakamura. Actually here, @ahmadhito objection is about using the family name, not about Dai Nippon or japanese language as he said in his comment earlier. That's the point of this misunderstanding.

2020-09-28 13:06:18
Sebait.kata.rindu @Bohai64084582

@ahmadhito @MattSelamet Hei, sorry just ignore that guy. Dia mungkin belum paham sama esensi yang kamu bilang.

2020-09-28 11:29:45
Matt Selamet @MattSelamet

@ahmadhito @kusdyantono @potretlawas So, are you belong to this Nakamura family (that's why you are so sensitive)? pic.twitter.com/RKS2TW3jgE

2020-09-22 22:36:12
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अह्मद् तोदोरोकि @ahmadhito

@MattSelamet @kusdyantono @potretlawas Marganya 中村NAKAMURA, namanya 輝夫TERUO. Silakan menelusuri arti nama di google. Saya tidak memaksa orang untuk memanggil beliau dengan nama Jepang. Kalau Anda bertekad memanggil beliau NAKAMURA TERUO, silakan saja. Saya sama sekali tidak peduli pikiran Anda.

2020-09-22 22:22:19
Matt Selamet @MattSelamet

@ahmadhito @kusdyantono @potretlawas Sebelum diskusi ini berlanjut, karena saya bukan orang jepang, dan anda orang jepang, maka tolong dijelaskan dulu apa itu arti nama TERUO NAKAMURA? dan apa signifikansinya sehingga anda tidak rela nama tersebut dipakai oleh orang non-jepang?

2020-09-22 17:09:52
अह्मद् तोदोरोकि @ahmadhito

@MattSelamet @kusdyantono @potretlawas Itu urusan orang lain dan soal pribadi. Ternata bukan beitu. Ini soal kolonialism. Saya tdk berpihak pada kolonialist. Tapi terserah penilaian orang termasuk @MattSelamet .

2020-09-22 15:49:50
अह्मद् तोदोरोकि @ahmadhito

@MattSelamet @kusdyantono @potretlawas Siapa yang menamai TERUO NAKAMURA dan siapa yang mehilangkan nama asli Suniuo? Jika beliau memilih TERUO NAKAMURA sebagai nama sendiri, tentu saja tdk usah bilang apa apa.

2020-09-22 15:43:08
अह्मद् तोदोरोकि @ahmadhito

@MattSelamet Untuk menggunakan huruf deevanaagari, perlu izin dari orang Nepal ? Apakah Anda dapat baca akunku?

2020-09-22 15:35:55
Matt Selamet @MattSelamet

@ahmadhito @kusdyantono @potretlawas Ini pernyataan yg angkuh. Sebagai saudara sesama muslim, saya menasehati anda agar meninggalkan keangkuhan yg mungkin terbawa dari masa lalu anda pic.twitter.com/tkko6IgAWD

2020-09-22 15:26:25
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ゴルン @guranzamu1 2020年7月27日
びっくりするぐらい読めん
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अह्मद् तोदोरोकि @ahmadhito 2020年9月23日
まとめを更新しました。インドネシア語のレスが来たので一応返しておきました。こちらの意図が伝わっているかは不明。
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