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Stephen Colebourne
@jodastephen
[blog] Scala feels like EJB 2, and other thoughts. Yep, I really don't like Scala #devoxx http://t.co/6ATR8caM
2011-11-22 18:10:28
Martin Odersky
@odersky
Scala is @playframework. Anybody saying it feels like EJB 2 has understood nothing or is spreading FUD.
2011-11-22 21:00:41
Timothy Perrett
@timperrett
@odersky Scala is Play? I'd like to think that the Scala eco-system is bigger than Play… was there a missing "like" in that sentence?
2011-11-22 21:09:00
Timothy Perrett
@timperrett
@fogus @djspiewak I enjoyed that bit. Also the bit that implied all developers like to import stuff that they know nothing about.
2011-11-22 23:36:06
Stephen Colebourne
@jodastephen
If you have Scala doubts, make sure u listen to Scala podcast (ie. their view not mine). I found it pretty bleak. YMMV. http://t.co/w8XhPs6E
2011-11-23 02:12:13
Martin Odersky
@odersky
@timperrett Sure. Play is a typical example of what Scala does and how simple that is. Lift-json is another. There are many more.
2011-11-23 02:19:29
Daniel Spiewak
@djspiewak
@odersky @timperrett I'm not a huge fan of Lift JSON, particularly as an example of simplicity. (no offense @jonifreeman) :-)
2011-11-23 02:34:15
Daniel Spiewak
@djspiewak
@odersky @timperrett Although, I'll admit that Lift JSON has improved a *lot* in recent days. /cc @jonifreeman
2011-11-23 02:34:42
Dustin Whitney
@dustinwhitney
@djspiewak @odersky @timperrett @jonifreeman I quite like lift json. Do you have another library you prefer?
2011-11-23 02:40:13
Joni Freeman
@jonifreeman
@djspiewak @odersky @timperrett No worries :) Hope we can soon use interpolation for JSON literals, replacing DSL which I know you dislike.
2011-11-23 02:42:36
Thomas Lockney
@tlockney
@djspiewak have you looked at http://t.co/9JZgOkYY? Curious what you think of it. /cc @dustinwhitney @odersky @timperrett @jonifreeman
2011-11-23 02:44:53
Dustin Whitney
@dustinwhitney
@tlockney @djspiewak @jonifreeman Jerkson looks ok. Doesn't have the querying abilities that LIFT JSON has
2011-11-23 02:47:26
Daniel Spiewak
@djspiewak
@tlockney @dustinwhitney @odersky @timperrett @jonifreeman Interesting! My 5 second evaluation: reflective parsing, do not want. :-)
2011-11-23 02:47:39
Daniel Spiewak
@djspiewak
@tlockney @dustinwhitney @odersky @timperrett @jonifreeman I think the more attempts at this problem, the better. Experimentation FTW!
2011-11-23 02:47:54
Daniel Spiewak
@djspiewak
@jonifreeman @odersky @timperrett That would be quite nice indeed!
2011-11-23 02:48:07
Daniel Spiewak
@djspiewak
@jonifreeman @odersky @timperrett One thing I'll definitely say for Lift JSON: it's *fast*. Really, really fast. Hard to complain about that
2011-11-23 02:48:33
Daniel Spiewak
@djspiewak
@JorgeO JField should not be a JValue. Likewise, JNothing shouldn't even exist. Neither of them make any sense in the domain.
2011-11-23 02:49:00
Daniel Spiewak
@djspiewak
@JorgeO ASTs should reflect the domain, not some artificial notion layered on top of the domain for the sake of easy search impl.
2011-11-23 02:49:34
Daniel Spiewak
@djspiewak
@JorgeO For the record, this is the lion's share of what is wrong with scala.xml as well.
2011-11-23 02:49:45
Thomas Lockney
@tlockney
@pk11 agreed, though I do understand @djspiewak's concern about the reflective aspect. Still, it's very fast.
2011-11-23 02:52:28
Joni Freeman
@jonifreeman
@djspiewak @JorgeO I agree. But that design was the simplest one which enabled AST transformations + LINQ style queries in one go.
2011-11-23 02:55:01
Daniel Spiewak
@djspiewak
Scala gives you a wealth of tools to manage complexity, but they're not always easy to use. This is not a problem; it is called "power".
2011-11-23 02:56:04