Reactive Manifesto

@pchiusano@universeodon.com @pchiusano

http://t.co/4aMkyD61lN is a perfect example of our industry's brainless pop culture.

Timothy Perrett @timperrett

Massive +1 RT @pchiusano: http://t.co/d094pQl2vD is a perfect example of our industry's brainless pop culture.

AndreasS @curious_reader

@pchiusano but our industry is not to blame it is our education which shapes our perception of concepts and how to learn

@pchiusano@universeodon.com @pchiusano

@curious_reader I'm not sure who/what is to blame, but you're right this is a factor.

AndreasS @curious_reader

@pchiusano people need to realize this to break out this circle, finally

Mike Slinn @mslinn

@timperrett @pchiusano Software is a fashion / groupthink business

@pchiusano@universeodon.com @pchiusano

OH: "Basically, no one seems to grasp that when stuff that's fundamental is broken, what you get is a combinatorial explosion of bullshit."

Q*memic @dysmemic

@pchiusano a glossy brochure on which the mind finds no purchase

Lgd. Viktor Klang @viktorklang

@curious_reader Trying to understand what @pchiusano is referring to. Constructive criticism is generally preferable. /cc @headinthebox

Tony Morris @dibblego

Reactive Programming is the new snake oil bullshizzles for starry-eyes who think gullible isn't in the dictionary. http://t.co/w4zUzM5x40

Lgd. Viktor Klang @viktorklang

@lagergren "Reactive programming" is at least 40 years old (Actor Model 1973), I don't think more needs to be said.

Phil Wills @philwills

@timperrett why? It's a bit woolly for my tastes, but most of the ideas gel with my experience.

@pchiusano@universeodon.com @pchiusano

@viktorklang @curious_reader @headinthebox vague to the point of being vacuously agreeable, entire tone and concept is pop culture

Miles Sabin @milessabin

@pchiusano s/pop culture/marketing/

Lgd. Viktor Klang @viktorklang

@pchiusano In what way? It's technology agnostic. "Pop culture" is a strange argument to me, it's OSS so please do suggest improvements.

AndreasS @curious_reader

@viktorklang @pchiusano now we're talking how to transform education into an OSS powered process,you only can 'fix' these probs for next gen

Kenji Yoshida @xuwei_k

akkaの人が発表した"Reactive Manifesto" http://t.co/iWljToVo9n というものに対する批判(というか皮肉？)tweet https://t.co/uvIKfL7QQO が話題になってるみたいだけど、イマイチ空気感がわからないので誰か解説を

Kenji Yoshida @xuwei_k

それを言ってるのは、FP in Scalaの本の著者の一人であり、ekmettの元同僚であり、scalaz-streamの作者であり、以前何度か「Actorは合成可能でない」的な話でAkkaの人と議論していた人ですが、(議論の焦点はよくわかってないけど)いいぞもっとやれ

@pchiusano@universeodon.com @pchiusano

Blogged: the reactive manifesto is 'not even wrong' http://t.co/a5vXGDju7p

@pchiusano@universeodon.com @pchiusano

@viktorklang I posted some thoughts here: http://t.co/a5vXGDju7p But basically, IMO is beyond repair; the starting concept is wrong :)

@pchiusano@universeodon.com @pchiusano

@viktorklang And your tweet rebuttal to my criticism is vaguer than the claimed vagueness of my criticism of the manifesto's vaguenesss!! :)

@pchiusano@universeodon.com @pchiusano

@viktorklang But in all seriousness, I just think manifestos like this aren't helpful. They are a 'cultural', marketing thing, not technical

Lgd. Viktor Klang @viktorklang

@pchiusano Haha, let's just call it a day

Lgd. Viktor Klang @viktorklang

@pchiusano I think part of the problem might lie in you having the wrong expectation(s): http://t.co/6op4r3q9UL

AndreasS @curious_reader

@pchiusano nice post Paul, glad you came around to write something down. I hope we find better ways to share good ideas.