does {da} refer to something?
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Jacob Errington
@djeikyb
doi @lorxus .i mi te pinka fi'o vreji zo'e ne zoi url http://t.co/4LQC2in4Kj url
2013-09-01 08:15:27
sruta'ulor
@lorxus
@djeikyb So there were a few things that you might not have seen - for example, that ralte was meant to translate "to save (for breakfast)".
2013-09-01 08:23:17
Jacob Errington
@djeikyb
@lorxus Ah yes, I hadn't thought of that. In that case {ralte} makes sense. Perhaps {co'u lo nu cersai}, or even, yes, {tezu'e lonu cersai}.
2013-09-01 09:16:40
sruta'ulor
@lorxus
@djeikyb Also, da really is meant to refer to the plums being so sweet and so cold.
2013-09-01 09:19:42
lorxus@vulpine.club
@CoronaCoreanici
@la_az_ @lorxus "In a sense social pleasure, shameful pride"? Could work. :3 I just thought "happy embarrassment" was more concise.
2013-09-01 13:07:19
lorxus@vulpine.club
@CoronaCoreanici
@la_az_ @lorxus Hah, not likely. The poem was written in 1934, and he died 50 years ago this March. http://t.co/q4D7HUclfF
2013-09-01 13:08:55
lorxus@vulpine.club
@CoronaCoreanici
@la_az_ @lorxus But it's always been one of my favorite poems. So offhand, so much implied, so cold.
2013-09-01 13:09:19
lorxus@vulpine.club
@CoronaCoreanici
@la_az_ @lorxus Possibly, but I think this falls under fair use if it does. The last copyright was in 1962.
2013-09-01 13:15:41
Jacob Errington
@djeikyb
@lorxus It really isn't... It simply means "there exists at least one". {da} doesn't have referents. It makes a claim about a number.
2013-09-03 06:56:34
sruta'ulor
@lorxus
@djeikyb I think I might have been looking for a goi-ko'a construction.
2013-09-03 06:57:42
Jacob Errington
@djeikyb
@la_az_ @lorxus It really doesn't. I thought the CLL was pretty clear on that. It's why in CLL you can't use {lo broda} then {le broda} --
2013-09-03 09:39:39
Jacob Errington
@djeikyb
@la_az_ @lorxus later in order to refer to the {lo broda} ; {lo broda} contained a hidden {da}-variable in CLL Lojban.
2013-09-03 09:40:05
az
@lai_az
@djeikyb @lorxus cite? I dont' remember that. Also, {da} is a bound variable here, not a free variable. That's why it refers to something
2013-09-03 09:44:22
az
@lai_az
@djeikyb @lorxus It's like saying "There exists an integer x such that x is prime." the 'x' refers to the integer.
2013-09-03 09:44:45
az
@lai_az
@djeikyb @lorxus By contrast in the proposition P(x) = x is prime, 'x' is a free variable and does not refer to anything.
2013-09-03 09:47:20