Utterly disagree with Chuck! No other meaning! RT @kevingashley: Chuck says: "can't equate long-term access with preservation" #spdr10
2010-11-09 05:13:46@CameronNeylon I totally agree. This is a great source of info for developing new tools--find out what researchers like about excel #spdr10
2010-11-09 05:14:05A nod to CDL's UC3 and more micro-services, this time out of Canada and for data services in the OAIS framework. #spdr10
2010-11-09 05:15:58@bnlawrence #spdr10 Probably often true, but not necessarily. Depends if Excel is capture or manipulation tool.
2010-11-09 05:16:15@kevingashley Databases too hard for most rsrchrs. We do need 2 meet halfway tho. Need better training in data modelling for rsrchrs #spdr10
2010-11-09 05:16:42@CameronNeylon and that's my point. Excel is a tool for manipulating data. Folks need different tools for managing it. #spdr10
2010-11-09 05:16:42Microservices get a cameo at #spdr10, via Chuck Humphries. *drink*
2010-11-09 05:17:15@lschiff @moncia I too use it for data. I know it, comes with other programs I use (Word, PP), sorts well, runs basic stats #spdr10
2010-11-09 05:17:16@CameronNeylon Hmph. I can teach my libschool students basic SQL query in <1 hr. Too hard? Rly? #spdr10
2010-11-09 05:17:32@bnlawrence Absolutely. Couldn't agree more. But we're struggling enough to do analysis in first place with substandard tools #spdr10
2010-11-09 05:18:37@RepoRat yes, too hard, since Excell >>> query. It really lets you play with stuff. It's seductive small, if disastrous in the large #spdr10
2010-11-09 05:19:42@RepoRat You have to set up the environment first. WHat about presentation-worthy graphics from said query results? @CameronNeylon #spdr10
2010-11-09 05:20:08Micro-services discussed at #spdr10, along with a shout out to Stephen Abrams and CDL.
2010-11-09 05:20:19@bnlawrence @CameronNeylon What do you suggest for data management? #spdr10
2010-11-09 05:20:27@RepoRat Not saying its a gd thing, just how it is on the grnd. Cld teach your students PCR in 1 hour. But wld they turn up 4 class? #spdr10
2010-11-09 05:21:06More seriously I'm not sure. I usually advocate lightweight wrappers to make linked data-ish graphs out of the original data objects #spdr10
2010-11-09 05:23:04I appreciate that two of the presenters were tweeting during the session :) #spdr10
2010-11-09 05:23:12@bnlawrence I think that manipulate vs manage distinction only becomes clear once you've made a right data mess eg multiple sheets #spdr10
2010-11-09 05:23:26@kolorkid This does not, as a whole, endear me to repository managers who generally want more formally structured metadata #spdr10
2010-11-09 05:23:42@gailst I understand. I just feel we're missing a trick here by just setting up these args. Its about as productive as TeX vs Word #spdr10
2010-11-09 05:25:19tone of the 2010 spdr meeting quite different than 2008. #spdr10 http://ff.im/toeEq
2010-11-09 05:26:04the open data session was good - showed UK, US, and Canadian approaches to data pres. #spdr10 http://ff.im/toePd
2010-11-09 05:27:10@kolorkid @CameronNeylon Glib answer: professionals. Better answer: software tools that don't yet exist, need dev and funding. #spdr10
2010-11-09 05:32:12