電子書籍のbookmarkとannotationの標準化についてN.Y.で行われた議論 #bkmk11

Travis Alber @screenkapture

good talk about deleting annotations / handling annotations on updated books. BookGlutton had to build for these #bkmk11

Hadrien Gardeur @Hadrien

@screenkapture what's the recommended way to deal with these? I would probably keep them even if you can't point anymore #bkmk11

kazuhiro ando @kzakza

#bkmk11 で今、annotations、とかfragment identifierとか電子書籍(もっと広い？)について凄く興味深い話がされている。あとでトゥぎゃてまとめて読もう。

ASMNW @vaporbook

Versioning of annotations - by machine or author - may be key in reattaching/relocationg orphaned objects #bkmk11

Dan Whaley @dwhly

#bkmk11 upcoming hacks/hackers brainstorming on http://meetupnyc.hackshackers.com/events/18715981/

Travis Alber @screenkapture

@Hadrien well, storing excerpt with annotation is a good idea, although it's something we are still developing... #bkmk11

Travis Alber @screenkapture

Is copyright talk out of place? To me copyright concerns are tied to implementation and depend on content type. #bkmk11

Travis Alber @screenkapture

@naypinya major props for using the phrase "unix worldview" and "reading groups" in same breath #bkmk11

Dan Whaley @dwhly

#bkmk11 Here's an example of video annotation... http://videolyzer.com/

Hadrien Gardeur @Hadrien

@screenkapture copyright is also an issue if you want to embed an excerpt in your annotation #bkmk11

ASMNW @vaporbook

@bookglutton uses an opds catalog, and atom annotations, with the idea being they're close enough to be easily merged #bkmk11

ASMNW @vaporbook

Anyone recall the link to the IDPF WG minutes where some requirements on cross publication linking were outlined? #bkmk11

Todd Carpenter tac_NISO at social.niso.org @TAC_NISO

Interesting question - to what extent would a compendium of annotations become a derived work - how would int'l copyright law apply? #BKMK11

Travis Alber @screenkapture

@Hadrien true copyright is important, but must not let that stifle innovation. Now discussing issue of owning personal annotations. #bkmk11

Travis Alber @screenkapture

@vaporbook has a good point: we're not going to start having less data - it becomes an interface issue #bkmk11

ASMNW @vaporbook

All we need to do for October is define clearly exactly what an "annotation" is. #bkmk11

Rob Sanderson @azaroth42@w3c.social @azaroth42

Great discussion at #bkmk11 regarding annotation and the OAC approach. Biggest issue: Best method to robustly identify target in dynamic doc

Rob Sanderson @azaroth42@w3c.social @azaroth42

#bkmk11 two big publishers at the table want to embrace open standards to promote interoperability :) really, _really_ encouraging!

Todd Carpenter tac_NISO at social.niso.org @TAC_NISO

Fantastic meeting on Bookmarking & social reading. Thanks to all who participated. Report of meeting & agreed next steps next week #bkmk11

pendorbound @pendorbound

@Hadrien Would definitely love to see a standard emerge there. Implementing in BookShelf/Tomes was painful & brittle... #bkmk11

Jennifer Vinopal @jvinopal

@azaroth42 coffee would be great. What time works for you? How was #bkmk11? Looked really interesting.

Rob Sanderson @azaroth42@w3c.social @azaroth42

@jvinopal #bkmk11 was really good. Amazing group of people brought together by @tac_niso and @naypinya!

Todd Carpenter tac_NISO at social.niso.org @TAC_NISO

#FF thanks to all participants in #BKMK11 discussion: @bookglutton @vaporbook @naypinya @azaroth42 @Hadrien @screenkapture @dwhly @kfitz

Todd Carpenter tac_NISO at social.niso.org @TAC_NISO

@ljndawson Exhausted. Very busy week at #bea11 #digbook11 #bkmk11 #ISBNhour +parents arriving for the holiday. Catch you next week

Hadrien Gardeur @Hadrien

@marckohlbrugge you mentioned on etherpad that you designed a generic fragment id for text. Any public example & presentation ? #bkmk11