Japanese common understanding of what Comicsgate is. 日本人のコミックスゲートに対する理解の雑さ

Sadly "Comicsgate is nothing but alt-right thugs" is common understanding among Japanese. No one is trying to understand what was really is. 誰一人コミックスゲートの主張を知ろうともせず「コミックスゲートは極右暴力集団」で思考停止してるのヤバくないですか。それこそ普段から批判してらっしゃる「雑なレッテル貼り」じゃないですか。
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'Comicsgate' is buzzing among Japanese Twitter since Aomidori's article denouncing Comicsgate. (*The original post is now behind paywall)

Kotsuyose kindly translated it in summary.
https://twitter.com/be_wormholed/status/1402240633310384132
*you can find an archive maybe?

Lunar Archivist @LunarArchivist

A Japanese Twitter user named Aomidori has written a hit piece on #ComicsGate heavily citing the skewed Wikipedia article as a source. Not only is it riddled with lies, but, in true SJW fashion, they're labeling negative/angry feedback as "harassment". 🤦 note.com/aomidori_2021/…

2021-06-09 05:04:21

But the original poster Aomidori demand him to delete the translation.
"I have to talk to my lawyer."
"Could you report Kotsuyose tweet?"
http://archive.today/0RqXV

Romly@C99 2日目 東テ-37a @Romly

@LunarArchivist In Japan tweeting "I'll talk to lawyer" in this type of context means that I'll send a proper disclosure request(of OC's address and real names) to send proper delete-post request to the real address through the lawyer, with consideration of sueing.

2021-06-09 16:45:28
Romly@C99 2日目 東テ-37a @Romly

By the way, the original poster is now... changed/deleted his ID. What was the "Rebuttals are welcome, plz reply my twitter account."...? twitter.com/LunarArchivist… pic.twitter.com/mZ5zV2TS1X

2021-06-12 14:46:32
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"Comicsgate is alt-right thugs"

Aomidori is a typical "Amekomi"(American comics) fan in Japan. It's understandable they hate Comicsgate since it's like their enemy that trying to denounce what they love.
However, this stop-thinking lazy understanding of Comicsgate is not only for Amekomi fans but also for almost all Japanese who speaks about it. Even people keen to criticize political correctness, just staying where the "Comicsgate is Alt-right thugs" and not even try to understand more.

Romly@C99 2日目 東テ-37a @Romly

After the article, there are rebuttal tweets or article by Japanese against the original post, however: - Comicsgate is American alt-right organization. - Japanese(Asians) are their exclusion target. - Comicsgate was nothing but rampage/crime-act of radical conservatives. twitter.com/LunarArchivist…

2021-06-12 13:23:14
Romly@C99 2日目 東テ-37a @Romly

It seems that this is pretty much Japanese' common recognition of what Comicsgate is, no matter they are agreeing the original post or opposing. I don't know, I've hard there was radical alt-right ish criminal activity along Comicsgate more or less, ...

2021-06-12 13:23:14
Romly@C99 2日目 東テ-37a @Romly

but not sure it should end up with this simple lazy understanding. For example, this tweet is criticizing Aomidori's original post as myopic, but how this person understanding of Comicsgate is as it says. archive.today/Msjza pic.twitter.com/Wao2EsHU5A

2021-06-12 13:23:15
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Romly@C99 2日目 東テ-37a @Romly

Also this one is a rebuttal Note against the original post. It mainly criticizing political correctness but how it explains Comicsgate is: note.com/hiroko_yayane/… archive.today/RS3hH pic.twitter.com/letAilYIjZ

2021-06-12 13:56:33
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Romly@C99 2日目 東テ-37a @Romly

I've known that Japanese Amekomi fans have been saying "Comicsgaters are all alt-right Nazi", but seems that it became simply a fact even among the people who against political correctness or anti-SJWs.

2021-06-12 13:56:34

Japanese Wikipedia and search results

Why this happening? The language barrier is huge, there is no information writing about Comicsgate in neutral in Japanese. And the information barely found are all affected by propaganda-ish explanation.

Romly@C99 2日目 東テ-37a @Romly

Thread! I think I should explain why Japanese' understanding of Comicsgate is "Alt-right subversive" no matter how they against political correctness. Searching コミックスゲート(Comicsgate) and the first result is Japanese Wikipedia article about it.

2021-06-12 17:37:34
Romly@C99 2日目 東テ-37a @Romly

The 2nd is a Japanese translation of Buzzfeed article(buzzfeednews.com/article/krishr…). And the 3rd is I guess individual's blog post but this one also denouncing Comicsgate. Then, how Japanese Wikipedia article of Comicsgate explains it? I'm not going to translate all of them,

2021-06-12 17:37:34
Romly@C99 2日目 東テ-37a @Romly

but the "claim" paragraph explains like this: "Comicsgate sympathizers have been doing protests collectively each time when comic industry problems came to the surface that damages their fun.[3] What was seen as problems are,

2021-06-12 17:37:34
Romly@C99 2日目 東テ-37a @Romly

the stories that superheroes(Ironman, Thor, Hulk, Spiderman) identity changing to women or racial minorities from the original that is a white male.[13][14] And or stories that brings social issues[13], and or portrayal of female characters that off from the idealized body.[15]

2021-06-12 17:37:35
Romly@C99 2日目 東テ-37a @Romly

I think I don't have to explain the 2nd, how about the 3rd one, which is by an individual(I guess)? visbul.com/entry/2018/09/… This article taking a style that bringing Comicsgater's claims at first and writing counterargument to that. You should read all of them, but the summary is

2021-06-12 17:37:35
Romly@C99 2日目 東テ-37a @Romly

#1 Comics quality getting lost because they are hiring a lot of women, PoC, LGBT creators based on their surface. And his counterargue goes: You shouldn't misunderstand that the comics industry is not an easy place you can get a job just because your surface.

2021-06-12 17:37:36
Romly@C99 2日目 東テ-37a @Romly

#2 The industry(mainly Marvel and DC) is influenced by social justice and there are rampant of SJW-ish works. That's why readers are gone and a lot of comics stores had to close.

2021-06-12 17:37:36
Romly@C99 2日目 東テ-37a @Romly

His counterargue: I have a disagreement on the industry is drowning in social justice in the first place, and it's too rash to be concluded that it's the reason customers going away. ..... It's quite natural that publishers created heroes

2021-06-12 17:37:36
Romly@C99 2日目 東テ-37a @Romly

that have a variety of identities and it's natural they took a marketing strategy that is reflecting diverse social nowadays. ..... There is no such objective data that shows this is the reason a lot of comics shops had to close.

2021-06-12 17:37:37
Romly@C99 2日目 東テ-37a @Romly

#3 Radical people are only a part of them, almost all people are just wanted to read interesting comics without politics. His counterargue: It's irresponsible that saying like this. While those "radical people" were attacking a lot of creators or fans,

2021-06-12 17:37:37
Romly@C99 2日目 東テ-37a @Romly

your group didn't even try to self‐purification and just support #Comicsgate. That only made "radical people" increased. And he is ending up like: I can understand that the "history" or "tradition" is important for those who have been reading superhero comics from Marvel or DC.

2021-06-12 17:37:37